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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate and you talk about those things and i can argue persuasively as i'm capable of arg
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those...
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. >> i think he was criticizing the ryan-esque vision on medicare and taxes. it's hard to say what else he displayed passion about. i have felt all year this is the biggest hole in their campaign. i don't think he has given americans a clear sense of what he would do to make the next four years better than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do about tax reform. it is true that romney hasn't put a lot of meat on the bones when it comes to what he would do to reform the tax code. what deductions would he cap. he started getting at that a little bit this past week. well, then why doesn't he push the president for some more d
. >> i think he was criticizing the ryan-esque vision on medicare and taxes. it's hard to say what else he displayed passion about. i have felt all year this is the biggest hole in their campaign. i don't think he has given americans a clear sense of what he would do to make the next four years better than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more...
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paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney actually shifting positions or emphasizing different elements of his positions? because when i watched and what i saw was a different approach to governance on display and a very different set of policies he was underscoring but not actually going off any of the policies he had espoused up to that night. >> i think you're right. what's been different was tone more than substance, style more than substance. i also think it's not a surprise that that's what he did at a debate that is not strictly for the republican audience. i think he's appealing to a broader group of voters. one of the things that romney has bee
paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney...
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mitt romney and his partner paul ryan, not his wife, will gut medicare. they have no answer how they're going to do a revenue-neutral budget i know i'm politics orened but you have to mesh-- >> eliot: it's the lack of recreation that will permit the vineyard to be shattered. that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our
mitt romney and his partner paul ryan, not his wife, will gut medicare. they have no answer how they're going to do a revenue-neutral budget i know i'm politics orened but you have to mesh-- >> eliot: it's the lack of recreation that will permit the vineyard to be shattered. that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second...
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but there is gaffe baggery and facts and figures. >> and ryan for not perceived as a policy wonk. and he has to connect with the people one on one. >> he does, like romney, they are like ward cleaver charm cute and don't seem threatening and good husbands and fathers and nothing that seems mean about them. i expect it to be similar though it will not be as good as romney and obama. they were playing c-span and replaying the reagan debate. romney was better than reagan in the debates. >> ann thank you . a pleasure . >> good to see you . >> and across the board. pundits agree that governor romney won the presidential debate. and the challenger coming again or will the story change. testimony us if you are on team biden and romney, why. and tweet your answers and i will read your responses later in this hour. >> this fox news alert. two u.s. service members died in insurgent attack in eastern afghanistan. just last week u.s. marked a somber mile tone with 2000us troops killed in the ongoing conflict. it comes amid strong words with leon panetta with amid karzai . he claimed that the
but there is gaffe baggery and facts and figures. >> and ryan for not perceived as a policy wonk. and he has to connect with the people one on one. >> he does, like romney, they are like ward cleaver charm cute and don't seem threatening and good husbands and fathers and nothing that seems mean about them. i expect it to be similar though it will not be as good as romney and obama. they were playing c-span and replaying the reagan debate. romney was better than reagan in the...
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paul ryan upons to throw granny over the cliff. they don't care about kids with down's syndrome. the lies have been going on for a long time. >> it is not going to hold up, sean. here's why. we have three more debates. one next week with pall and all joe biden -- i am looking forward-- >>> this is going to be a doozy. >> it will be great. i don't want to under-sell joe biden because he's pretty clever with good rhetoric. he obviously sticks his foot in his mouth, but he is quick on his feet and he is relatable to people. so i don't think we can take that lightly. but two more debates with the president. two more opportunities, hopefully, as unfiltered as we were last week. i think, of all the problems and all of the -- i think huge disappointments with this president at the debate, he continues to perpetrate this myth that somehow he has this magic plan to get our deficit and debts under control, after he himself number 1, delivered three massive deficits, every year he has been president-- >>> $6 trillion. to be accurate, as of today, $5.54 trillion in new debt. it will be $6 tr
paul ryan upons to throw granny over the cliff. they don't care about kids with down's syndrome. the lies have been going on for a long time. >> it is not going to hold up, sean. here's why. we have three more debates. one next week with pall and all joe biden -- i am looking forward-- >>> this is going to be a doozy. >> it will be great. i don't want to under-sell joe biden because he's pretty clever with good rhetoric. he obviously sticks his foot in his mouth, but he is...
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so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed
so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the...
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. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a lot of time in ohio. the numbers are closing in ohio. >> they look better after the debate. but we haven't had enough days for the tracking polls to show the full effect of the debate. but sam's right, the debates are taking over for the schedule now. we have the next one on the 11th, vice-presidential and then -- we are talking about that until the 16th and the next one is the 62nd. so the debates are the story the next 10, 15 days. >> 30 seconds left. from reuters, bad news from obam a1 in 5 said it made them feel more negative about him after the debate. >> that's how they will feel unti
. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a...
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allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female go
allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage...
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the ryan budget died in the senate. undeterred, ryan unveiled a second version of his budget. this one would have cut $1.76 trillion from the taxes of the top one-half of the top 1% over ten years. which brings us to the current campaign. during the republican primary every candidate in the field offered tax cuts that it turned out would most benefit the wealthy. a number of the plans proposed, herman cain's, newt gingrich's came right out and said explicitly they lowered taxes for the wealthy and some raised taxes at the bottom quite explicitly. i suppose it is to mitt romney's credit he did not have the most cruelly aggressive tax plan in the primary. it's underappreciated that he is currently proposing at least three major separate tax cuts all of which would disproportionately benefit the rich. first, he's proposing that all of the bush tax cuts be made permanent. the tax cut of $3 trillion for the wealthiest over the next ten years. second, he's proposing to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. the tax policy center estimates that just over half of the corporate ta
the ryan budget died in the senate. undeterred, ryan unveiled a second version of his budget. this one would have cut $1.76 trillion from the taxes of the top one-half of the top 1% over ten years. which brings us to the current campaign. during the republican primary every candidate in the field offered tax cuts that it turned out would most benefit the wealthy. a number of the plans proposed, herman cain's, newt gingrich's came right out and said explicitly they lowered taxes for the wealthy...
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decide, do they want more of what they've seen for the past four years, or do they want pa romney and ryan ticket who will bring in pro-growth policies that will bring in jobs for our country? >> thank you so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >>> the picture at the gas pump keeps gets worse for drivers in california. >>> but first, after mitt romney's attack on big bird this week, the mega-sized muppet has been popping up in some surprising places this weekend. we'll show you, next. you're watching msnbc. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your in
decide, do they want more of what they've seen for the past four years, or do they want pa romney and ryan ticket who will bring in pro-growth policies that will bring in jobs for our country? >> thank you so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >>> the picture at the gas pump keeps gets worse for drivers in california. >>> but first, after mitt romney's attack on big bird this week, the mega-sized muppet has been popping up in some surprising places this...
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if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say look, paul, how much time do you need? here's a white board. here's a pen. how much time do you need to do the math? we're here for you. let's work it out. >> hey rich, how much in terms of paul ryan, how much do you think is resting on his shoulders? how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be more skilled, frankly, than either of the two presidential candidates who did not have that kin
if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say look, paul, how much time do you need? here's a...
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but it's going to be ryan. no doubt about it. listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand this now. the actual number of jobs added in september was not a huge increase, but we still saw this drop of the overall rate to 7.8%. how does that work? >>
but it's going to be ryan. no doubt about it. listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the...
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class, looking to support education, not wanting to see the health care cuts that are in the romney/ryan plan, those policies supporting women are much more popular than mitt romney's policies, and i think that the obama team is going to kind of double down on that over the next few weeks. >> let's talk about a piece on cnn.com. you gave president obama some tips on how to win the first debate. >> right. >> writing in part, this is a great little read. you wrote my final piece of advice is most simple. stay nice. no, you're likable enough comments. no jokes about dogs on top of the car, >> reporter: marking about how rich romney is, no patronizing lecturing when he has his facts wrong. just stay nice. but looking back, i mean, you say he didn't do so badly but by all accounts the president remained calm, maybe too calm for some of his supporters, didn't engage in the attacks, didn't use the bain capital, didn't use the 47% attacks, and -- and the overwhelming consensus, of course, was that romney won. what's your advice for him for the next debate? do you still say stay nice, stay calm i
class, looking to support education, not wanting to see the health care cuts that are in the romney/ryan plan, those policies supporting women are much more popular than mitt romney's policies, and i think that the obama team is going to kind of double down on that over the next few weeks. >> let's talk about a piece on cnn.com. you gave president obama some tips on how to win the first debate. >> right. >> writing in part, this is a great little read. you wrote my final piece...
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governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on october 11 -- beef -- on august 11. you look at the congressional bellpull in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were very tight. after august 11, when governor robin decided to double down on republican plan to end medicare and fund tax cuts for millionaire and big oil companies, the generics began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2, 3, and when todd aiken express those horrific thoughts about legitimacy to forms of rape, the generics widened even more. when the republican or romping in the sea of galilee, the generics spread even more. these people have breweries that would end of medicare to fund -- these people have priorities that would end medicare. in august, the nbc/ "wall street journal"generic said it was up four. there is a direct correlation between generics and our ability to win back the house and right now is going in the right direction. host: you could hear more from that interview tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning on this network. vincent from detroit, mich
governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on october 11 -- beef -- on august 11. you look at the congressional bellpull in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were very tight. after august 11, when governor robin decided to double down on republican plan to end medicare and fund tax cuts for millionaire and big oil companies, the generics began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2, 3, and when todd aiken express those horrific thoughts about...
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vp joe biden and congressman paul ryan will face their showdown in danville, kentucky, and both sides will spend a lot of time preparing. meanwhile, president obama out on the campaign trail is showing some of the energy he didn't show at the first presidential debate in denver. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance. at the debate the other night, he tried to wiggle out of stuff he has been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like -- dancing with the stars. or maybe it was extreme makeover. debate edition. >> expect to see a more aggressive debater when the president and mitt romney face off again in a week and a half. for romney, the debate offered a chance to question the president's priorities. >> i thought it was a good chance for us to ask each other questions. i asked the president some of the questions i know people across america have wanted to ask him. i asked him for instance, why with 23 million americans that were looking for work and wanted a president to focus on the economy going, he instead spent his first three years fighting for obama care. >> by the
vp joe biden and congressman paul ryan will face their showdown in danville, kentucky, and both sides will spend a lot of time preparing. meanwhile, president obama out on the campaign trail is showing some of the energy he didn't show at the first presidential debate in denver. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance. at the debate the other night, he tried to wiggle out of stuff he has been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like -- dancing with the stars. or maybe it was...
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nobody knows the budget better than paul ryan. nobody has probably at least in the national stage a better perspective, big picture of the overall sense of government as joe biden. again, you may not agree with his conclusions. but he understands the intricacies, so this is going to be a great debate between two knowledgeable warriors. >> very quickly, what's on your show tonight. >> he well, we have frank will you tell us looking at ads and people's response. we will be talking about mitt romney's religion with congressman lab bore out of identified da who he. we have panget we will be doing a little bit of debate analysis. the kind of thing that will keep you on the end of your seat. you will even want to watch the commercials. >> the dinner won't be nearly as effective. >> thanks, mike. >> coming up, chaos literally as furious atlanta brave fans lash out after a controversial call. >> tomahawk chop. >> want more energy and blissful stress-free life? mike did, you know you can make it happen in 40 days? this guy the author tom n
nobody knows the budget better than paul ryan. nobody has probably at least in the national stage a better perspective, big picture of the overall sense of government as joe biden. again, you may not agree with his conclusions. but he understands the intricacies, so this is going to be a great debate between two knowledgeable warriors. >> very quickly, what's on your show tonight. >> he well, we have frank will you tell us looking at ads and people's response. we will be talking...